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Shoot the Messenger--The Truth About the S&P's AAA Downgrade

If you’re vacationing in our nation’s capital this week, please wear a pair of protective eyeglasses to protect yourself from the rash of pointing fingers that erupted after S&P’s downgrade of US securities.

The Administration is blaming S&P for its own profligate spending; the Democrats are blaming the Republicans for their profligate spending; the Republicans are blaming the Democrats for their profligate spending; and EVERYBODY hates the Tea Party.

All S&P has done is to state the obvious: the federal government and American consumers are addicted to spending what they don’t have. 

Added to this cacophony of complaints is the voice of the European Union, an idiotic grouping of Europeans with absolutely nothing in common except the desire to become economically stronger than the US.

Yes…the EU, home of the bankrupt countries of Greece, Ireland and Portugal, soon to be joined by the wobbly Italy and Spain, also sounded off about S&P over the weekend.

 Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

In all that I’ve seen and read over the past two days emanating from DC, it’s hard to choose which stupidity is my favorite. 

But I have been able to place two “stupidities” in a tie for the premier position of inanity.

One comment was uttered by Treasury head Tim Geithner on CNBC yesterday.

When asked what he thought of the S&P downgrade, he responded, “And they’ve (S&P) shown a stunning lack of knowledge about basic US fiscal budget math.”

Let me tell you folks, if we used the same fiscal math as DC, we’d be sitting in Leavenworth Federal Prison partaking of “3 hots and a cot!” 

Sorry to hear, Tim, that you’ve decided to stay on the job until the 2012 election.  I was kind of hoping we’d get a new Treasury head who could understand the methodology behind Turbo-Tax!

But I’m sure your announcement was well received by your “best buds,” the kingpins on Wall Street.

My other favorite comment over the weekend was uttered by none other than the economic advisor to the President, Gene Sperling, who, in his great wisdom, denounced S&P for using the numbers in their analysis that came from the Congressional Budget Office.

HUH!!???

Did I miss something?  Hasn’t the Administration and the Democrats in Congress quoted everything coming from the mouth of the CBO as “the gospel truth by an unbiased panel” so that they could jam ObamaCare and every other government giveaway over the past two years down our collective throats?

E tu Brute?

Folks…the plain truth is that S&P has lowered the expectations of our ability to pay interest on our debt securities from “extremely likely” to “very likely.”

The change, in reality, is no bigger than that of a gnat on the rump of an elephant.

So why did S&P even bother?  They did it because, after the credit ceiling debacle that we just lived through proved by its outcome that Washington still isn’t taking our debt problem seriously, we are in great danger of reaching the point at which we can no longer sustain ourselves under such a crushing debt. 

S&P is only saying what most concerned Americans are thinking: we can’t keep spending what we don’t have.

If you want to believe that S&P only did this because it is politically against Obama and the Dems and pro conservative Republicans, then you must also believe that Moody’s and Fitch are pro-Obama since they chose to maintain our AAA rating.

Neither argument carries any water.

Keep reading for our take on how the Standard and Poor's downgrade could affect your wallet.

Ken and Daria Dolan have hosted their own national radio program for 22 years, anchored their own television shows on CNN, authored six books on money matters, served as money contributors on CBS This Morning and have now launched a comprehensive web site and free e-letter at Dolans.com.


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View unverified member's comment - posted by Agnes J Ross

August 10, 2011 2:36 PM

What I don't hear anyone addressing is the talk of cutting Social Security and Medicare. I am 69 years old. My only income is Social Security, and i am NOT getting the maximum payment. If Social Security and Medicare is pulled out from under me, and seniors like me, we will end up homeless and without medical care. Why is no one addresseing that? I don't begrudge any person who has worked hard and been able to save for their old age. What I do begrudge is all the tax loopholes and cuts that are being left alone, while the balancing of the budget is coming on the backs of seniors like me. What provisions can be made for us if our only sources are going to be taken away?

View unverified member's comment - posted by Matt

August 10, 2011 7:12 PM

I do not believe the blame lies with Timothy Geithner. The blame belongs to several. Maybe the last administration for running up the deficit.. the last 2 congresses for their inability to do their jobs, and the Tea Party for not understanding the word "Compromise" and holding America hostage for the belief of a SMALL few.

August 10, 2011 7:24 PM

Amen Brother,

I am not yet old enough to retire, but the way it looks these days, I may never be able to stop working. My 401K was cut in half in 2008, the up and down of the markets is ridiculous, my broker says "don't worry, just rebalance". My pay was reduced so I cannot afford to make contributions, and I must live check to check. let me put this as clearly as possible, and I think I speak for everyone when I say I DONT CARE WHOS FAULT IT IS!
MAKE THE UPPER 1% AND MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. STOP TRYING TO ANGLE FOR ANOTHER ELECTION. There has been WAAAAAAAY too much finagling and skimming and out right robbery for too long. If this keeps up, let it be on your heads.

August 10, 2011 7:48 PM

Val, I couldn't agree with you more! I had the same thing happen to me, lost my 401k and kids college funds. My job was outsourced to China, so back to school I go. They do need to make the TOP 1% pay their fair share, and close the loopholes. All these parties worry about is the next election! Its time they start worrying about everyday Americans or we'll take care of those elections for them! :) I really like how some of the Presidential candidates talk that cry about entitlements, and taxes, but take 80k a year in farm subsidies? I think they all are clueless.

August 10, 2011 8:24 PM

So they can understand how the average American lives....first..put all the money in one pot, and make our politicians draw Soc Sec and medical benefits from the same programs as us....I'll be they fix it real fast. Second..the biggest draws from Soc Sec..is the program that pays hundred per month-for each child that has lost a parent..until they are either 18 or 21. I've read that if this program was changed to fewer years per child...Soc Sec would never run short or need to be cut back. So, starting next Monday...if you are on this program....you receive a notice that your payments will stop in 3 yr. If you have jost lost your spouse and are signing up our kids....OK, but its only for 3 yrs. Thats not to say that at the end of 3 yr, there couldn't be some sort of short term help for some things. Like all of you...I worked my whole life, have no pension and will have to pay $500-700/month for my own medical benefits...so I'm ticked that they want to cut our SocSec.. No one seems to care that a huge number of us will be in trouble and could be living on the streets in a couple of years....but....we sure can pay a widowed parent for 5-10-18 yrs for each of their kids....and cut my monthly payments. What is wrong. Anyway, politicians should draw from our plans..and have a better understanding of how "their people" live. They will fix it then.

View unverified member's comment - posted by Mike Anton

August 11, 2011 5:29 AM

we get pay cuts job losses so its congress&the presidents turn to give back we the people will give them a pay raise when we get ours back lets outsource congress es job to musuliam land and fire the so called president will he and congress share there wealth ?
lets fire the bums and start from scratch !!!

View unverified member's comment - posted by john rivers

View unverified member's comment - posted by meiling

August 12, 2011 9:21 AM

Yeah Moodys, S&P those geniuses who said right up to the day bankruptcy was filed that Enron was AAA rated. It doesn't matter what they say, they're being paid to say it!!!! What you need to do is see who's paying. Three things need to happen:
1) The rich whose wealth was accumulated because of the opportunities granted them by America, MUST return the favor! Stop trying to **** us and use us ( the working people) for personal gain. They only hurt themselves in the long run by sucking all the profits out of America, cutting education and services, reducing the economic base and skipping out on taxes.
Who will they sell to when there are nothing but stupid, poor, undernourished people to purchase their products? India? China? South America? No help there either.
2) STOP trying to pay for multiple wars with no point and no end in sight! I don't care whose party or PAC benefits from the dollars spent, it cannot be maintained. EVERYONE needs to tighten their belts and cut back, and that includes the military industrial complex.
3) Support the citizenry! We the people will support you if you support us. Fully fund education, public works, fire, emt, hospitals, police, etc. The country will benefit from it, it has been proven. There is no reason to keep piling on higher and higher taxes on those at the bottom to keep up the programs that help them. You only need to cut waste, and fraud, and be reasonable. Trustees and tenured professors of the vaunted UC system have NO BUSINESS collecting half a million dollars a year, while the students they teach go into debt for 3 times that much to attend their classes. This is only one example of the stupidity that is rampant.

Lets' face it, Robin Leach was an asshat. Not everyone can be super wealthy, and we should not try to be so at the expense of the rest of the world.

View unverified member's comment - posted by Maryanne

August 12, 2011 12:10 PM

There is a reason the rest of us are required to use GAAP. These Fianancial Accounting Standards make everyone report by the same rules no matter how unflattering it is to the financial picuture you want to present. I doubt that any licensed auditor would attest to the truth of anything that comes out of the Government accounting system. Shouldn't they be the ones setting the example?

View unverified member's comment - posted by Meye2sense

August 12, 2011 1:33 PM

Dude,

I am a baby boomer and I did NOT start two wars of choice to fund random corporations and already wealthy asshats. It was the WW1 and WW2 generation that still run things, who think war is good for the country and you have to do your part and give up your life for AMERICA (anthem here) while stripping our country of all the materials, resources and cash they can get their hands on. If it was their sons and daughters who had to die, it wouldn't happen, which is why GW Bush was an awol draft dodger, and we don't have a draft any more.

August 12, 2011 7:57 PM

The Federal Reserve deserves a big share of the blame. Keeping interest rates at zero and baling out the big banks and AIG... was the action that resulted in QE1 and QE2. You can not spend your way out of debt. The Federal Reserve has tripled their balance sheet, while you and I have paid the price big time. AIG did not need the bail out.... the banking side was short, but the insurance side had more than enough to take care of the company. I call is fraud and a fleecing of the American public.

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